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Poster: midnight sun Date: Jun 20, 2007 1:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

just had to ask myself, “if i admire the LMA policy to only host what has been authorized by the artist, then why is it that i fail to adopt this policy for myself?”

so in honor of the days leading up to this day, I have assembled the following...comment as you please, but keep in mind that i don’t necessarily believe (nor necessarily disbelieve) the truths, half truths and outright lies contained herein;

so here it is…


Top 10 Ways To Justify Ripping GD Sbd's When You Know It's Against The Wishes Of At Least One Member Of The Band

10. a member of the GD sound crew already received some sort of payola during the show making it all legit

9. you significantly contributed to the recording with your cat calls during Stella Blue

8. tell yourself GD made a lot of money off of us and this was never part of the deal, and it's time they started giving some of that money back...besides, it's not your fault that the members of the band were never cut out to hold down respectable day jobs flipping burgers...and another thing, your money is worth more to you than their money is worth to you

7. use the infamous quote "when we're done with it, they can have it" to your advantage in any way you can, and hold the band to it for all of eternity

6. chant "I am not entitled, I am grateful" during the D/L process, then add a note of the same to the text file because the MD5 checksums won't be able to detect an entitlement attitude D/L from a blessed one

5. get really angry at anyone who has the nerve to openly express D/L entitlement attitudes, this will temporarily reinforce your own illusions of moral superiority...works especially well during feeding frenzies as there is nothing more self-righteous than a pack of hungry jackals

4. pay for what you have D/L if and when it has been officially released...or conveniently delete the D/L file when you have finally decided that the show was never really worth paying for to begin with

3. D/L from a site that hasn't been shut down yet...after all, it must be ok if they are still allowed to operate (?) and don't forget to secretly thank all of the people who openly express sbd D/L entitlement attitudes for threatening GD with another public relations disaster if they should even try to shut these unauthorized sites down…it’s all about the music

2. before you D/L, mutter to yourself, "whatever copyright laws might apply can suck my ass and lick my balls", but not too loud, because some people have been known to misunderstand this common construction site figure of speech to be a literal rsvp open invitation that should have included at least one nun...in any case, be prepared to produce a copy of your birth certificate

and a drum roll please...

1. simply admit to yourself that you are a fucking hypocrite, select “down them all”, and move on

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Poster: tree-ap Date: Jun 21, 2007 6:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

Oh Brother....That's fuckin' HILARIOUS!!!! I always make sure I send "Thank You" cards to everyone @ GDP & the rest of the band---as long as you say "thank you" it's all ok.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 20, 2007 2:33pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

Now that was an enjoyable read. While unable to explicitly acknowledge anything to do with any of the possible implications of your post, my lawyer has approved the following text message:

"l**k my tiny little b**ls!"

Seriously, though...good one.

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Poster: high flow Date: Jun 20, 2007 3:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

Lotum Scricker! Anybody familiar w/ spooner-isms??


New Topic:

Remember Lick'made??(SP?)

3 pouches of colored sugar and a solid-sugar dipstick! Kept kids high for days!

Like Saturday at Little League....."I'll have a hot dog and a Lick'made". Damn, that was good eatin'. Along w/ the watery Coke w/ crushed ice....ahhhh, the good ole days.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 20, 2007 3:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

Absolutely! The good ole summertime...

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Poster: Compsurfah_Too Date: Jun 20, 2007 3:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

Again... I said this earlier this week.

For those of us who download to our hard-drives (and subsequently burn to CD)... And admit it... we ALL have.

We, who were part of the audience-experience... be Grateful for the AUD-experience.

I am not entitled... but I am Grateful.

Enjoy the SBD...

To to those who continue to believe in their thoughts that they are divinely entitled to ask how to DL and burn SBDs... you are not entitled to sh**... Don't F*** it up for those of us who truly enjoy the gift that is LMA.


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Poster: sydthecat2 Date: Jun 20, 2007 4:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

10.Easy Answers.

9. Easy Answers.

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3. Easy Answers.

2. Easy Answers.

1. Easy Answers out of Space!!!!!

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Jun 20, 2007 4:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

i guess i am hoping for some insight as to how i can reconcile my own feelings of hypocrisy between the act of D/L ANYTHING from any unauthorized site, all the while claiming to hold the LMA policies in such high regard

an ethical question perhaps best left to each individual...if i admire the artists work, then shouldn't i also respect the artists wishes regarding that work?

maybe i need to cleanse my soul with a good gospel jam band
;)

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Poster: cush212 Date: Jun 20, 2007 4:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

May I suggest the "Appreciative Resurrected"? All the rage on the christian contemporary jamband scene since late 2007!!!




OK, that was pretty stupid, but hey, somebodies got to do it!

;)

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Jun 20, 2007 5:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

hey, so far it's my only hope
;)

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jun 20, 2007 5:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

fuck the gd - but long live the archive - praise the lord for etree

sick of the bullshit attitude from the bearded one

but i love this site and what it stands for and for what it respects

i will respect this site til time inmmoriam - but for the rest......, i'll burn commercial realeases for heads and do whatever ican for my friends - they have enough cash from me and my brothers and sisters


love this site though - total respect

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jun 21, 2007 8:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

Not that I "hold this site's policies in high regard", or anything, but, speaking as a true "hypocrite", I think that if you hold the "secret" for obtaining that which is explicitly prohibited, it might not be in your best interests to start splashing that "secret" all over public forums. For example, let's say you have discovered a foolproof and cheap form of alchemy that can turn a pile of sheep offal into bags of the stickiest primo bud on the planet for 25 cents a pound, do you then climb to the top of the highest hill you can find and start shouting out the recipe? Most of us would say "Why, no kind sir, no I would not. I would refrain from doing so because the local authorities would most likely take great interest in what I am doing and probably not only take the formula away, but may also put me in a cold and dark place for a very long time." Are we then hypocrites for saying "Hey, yes we have the formula and yes we use it, BUT we do not think it a wise idea to start discussing the intracacies of how the formula works where those who have said they want no such formula employed would look first,"? I say no! We merely fear that "they" (feel free to substitute "The Man" here if you feel it more appropriate) could then take away any and all access to that which the formula was created for in the first place, thus rendering the forumla useless; and also I don't think we want any folks who AREN'T using the formula to be punished for our indescretions.
Hopefully you can follow this line of reasoning. I'm not sure I can.

By the way, the part about shouting out cat calls during Stella Blue killed me.

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Poster: sydthecat2 Date: Jun 21, 2007 8:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

None of you are hypocrites. No one is at fault. I have been collecting bootlegs since I was nineteen. Mick Jagger still has eighteen houses. Bob Weir still has nineteen bicycles. I buy lots of their product. I am cool with myself. I do not hate Bobby for taking his position on this. I know I can get what I want anytime from my blessed fellow Heads.

I think we should listen the music play now.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jun 21, 2007 12:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

Just to clarify, as stated in my post I don't consider myself a hypocrite either and do enjoy the free distribution of this fine music through any number of diferrent sources. I am simply saying that I understand why we choose not to openly discuss ways around set policies that could potentially have a negative effect on everyone, regardless of involvement.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jun 21, 2007 12:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

June 21, 1948

Once upon a time, vinyl was pretty much the only form on which to press music. On this day in 1948, Columbia Records began mass production of 33 1/3 RPM records.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Jun 21, 2007 1:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

Fond memories, indeed. Brings me back to the stories of my father and his attempts to construct an LP duplication machine (Pops was extremely fond of live Glenn Miller stuff - yes, I know Miller died in 1945 - but didn't want to pay for the commercial releases). I guess the closest he came was a machine that was the size of VW Microbus and sucked up enough electricity to power a small battleship. I believe he burst into tears when I brought home my first dual well tape deck.

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Poster: BryanE Date: Jun 21, 2007 11:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

I haven't.

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Jun 21, 2007 3:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

thank you ladies and gentlemen for all of your responses and kind appreciation

personally, i can't help but believe that LMA has taken the ethical high ground on this one...but far be it for me to preach ethics to others...perhaps if i had substituted "i" and "me" for "you" and "your" this might have been more obvious

yes, lofty principles indeed, but as William once pointed out, perhaps best not dogmatically adhered to, and definitely not cool to presume to apply to all nor anyone in particular...besides, if it's ok with everyone else, i was hoping to reserve these ideals for myself anyways, along with all of the glorious guilt that goes with them :)

however, if you do find yourself wrestling with the issue, then i sincerely hope the post has helped you to see through some of the excuses some of us tend to create

now it's time to lay my conscience to rest and head out to the shed to press some Glenn Miller (that is absolutely frickin' amazing SDH, such character!) and ignore the people that claim Glenn's music should have gone down into the channel with him
;)

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jun 21, 2007 4:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

loved you post man - and i have no principles whatsover - other than respecting this site. i will d/l from whatever and whereever i can. just not from here

i have no issue being a hypocrite - and i dont feel like i am - my allegiance is to the archive, not to a rock band. not sure if that is good or bad. this site has treated me so very very well and not just with the dead. i am indebted to this site. much more so than the corporate entity of the dead.

if that makes any sense whatsoever - just my .02

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Jun 22, 2007 2:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

thanks direwolf, much appreciated

the thing is , the LMA allegiance is to the musicians that contribute the music...the library would not be what it is without the establishment of trust that has taken place between the admins and the musicians...in a sense, providing a safe haven for musicians to have control over the exposure of their own work in a world otherwise bent on indiscretion

i am not altogether certain that my allegiance to LMA is required or even relevant (beyond making contributions and vigilantly speaking out against those that would threaten the library or it's mission)...but i do appreciate the music made available to us as a direct result of LMA’s allegiance to the musicians

thanks again, you guys rock!

LMA ROCKS!!!

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Jun 22, 2007 12:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

all that is true. LMA is a library in the truest sense.

it is not a commercial site, and like a book library, the ones that Benjamin Franklin started, well I forgot what I was going top write...

it's beyond books but if I were at a library now, I wouldn't steal a book.

Not even "Steal This Book".

I wouldn't even steal the book I helped write (1 chapter, anyway, in The Alfred Hitchcock Presents Companion).

But I might xerox a few pages at the library.

BZZZZT....

a message just appeared on my screen, this windows is new to me, it says you have something something, illegal...

gotta go, someone's knocking on the door.

PS

youtoob has about a month before the footprint technology gets installed, that will i.d. all dvd etc rips.

It's a billion dollar library, uh oh.

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Jun 22, 2007 1:03am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

"all that is true"

oh man, i was beginning to feel like it was just me and the grizzly bears that saw the mirage of the LMA oasis...thanks for that

absolutely love Hitchcock's work...i'm gonna give that a read...and if i should recognize your writing, i won't tell em i know ya ;)

is it true Alfred never received an Oscar?
actually, i kinda hope he didn't... serves those phony-baloney academics right!

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Jun 22, 2007 1:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

Hitch only got an honorary oscar if memory serves.

I love Peter O'Toole's attitude about "honorary" awards.

Thanks for the Hitch Companion comment...


There really did use to be these "you have performed an illegal action" or some such on Windows.

A friend (who only knows how to turn the pc on, and then off by unplugging it!) was actually nervous when that message popped up on their pc while I was trying to "help it work better".



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Poster: midnight sun Date: Jun 22, 2007 4:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

i'll check the library first :)

not familiar with O'Tooles attitude on honorary awards...what say he?

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Poster: cream-puff-war Date: Jun 22, 2007 8:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

yee yeah hah, the Library of Congress might have a copy, in the sub-basement unsorted stacks

(still in print, but low distribution)

O'Toole doesn't think the honorary Oscar he got is a real Oscar, though he politely accepted it, he said to Charlie Rose it was (what were his exact words... deliciously derisive... dang me, can't recall them)
an unearned afterthought, a tid-bit tossed to an dying dog (but he said it sooo much better than that).

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Jun 20, 2007 5:17pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

Best post in weeks. About time someone stood up for all us freeloaders and put the self-righteous integrity minded sonsofbitches in their places.


lmfao.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jun 20, 2007 5:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

Ditto.

And one more time for good measure.

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Poster: high flow Date: Jun 20, 2007 2:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

or chant the following...

Oh-Wah-Tanah-Siam
Oh-Wah-Tanah-Siam
Oh-Wah-Tanah-Siam
Oh-Wah-Tanah-Siam

Faster! Aloud!

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Poster: ducats Date: Jun 20, 2007 2:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Top 10 Ways To D/L Entitlement

one of the best Odd Couples ever!

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Jun 20, 2007 2:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re:benevolently hi-jacked

wondered where that came from...didn't produce any results with a google search

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Poster: ducats Date: Jun 20, 2007 3:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Re:benevolently hi-jacked

? to me ?

High Flows chant is from an Odd Couple episode.